And we're back, with the second half of our coverage on Tastyfish's recent Warseer Rumor Round Up, that has just recently been updated to v3.0, to take in to account some rumor monger discussion. Just as before, you can skip down to “The Bottom Line” to bypass the autopsy and get straight to the post-mortem opinion.
Picking up from where we left off, we come to Ghost21's multiple inputs. I had a hell of a time tracking down the source material for this one, until I realized that Tastyfish had actually cobbled together all of Ghost's separate one or two sentence posts, into the coherent round-up thread he's made on Warseer. As a result, if you want to track the original source material, you'll have to search through Ghost's posts, all of which can be found through this link, but be warned, it's a tedious job, and after a couple of hours of piecing it all together, I can tell you for certain, Tastyfish has done all the work for us on that front.
Phil Kelly |
The first thing Ghost mentions is that the Tau are going to be after the next book, which is likely to be Black Templars. This has been the opinion of the collective rumor community for a while now, along with the fact that the Tau have been more or less complete for some time, and have just been jockeying for position with the other codex releases. He thinks the author is Phil Kelly, which I think few people will be disappointed to hear (though this sits opposite a rumor we'll get to momentarily). Wave one, Ghost says, will include plastic Demiurg, Battlesuit, Vespid, and Assault Transport kits, along with a Demiurg Blister, an unspecified “Tau” Blister, and two entirely unnamed Blisters. A Dropship, Fighter Craft, “Ubersuit”, and Sniper Suit will likely come in a second wave. All of which sounds like the quality launches we've seen recent armies get.
His information on codex composition mentions that we'll have four basic HQ's, and three basic Troop Choices, excluding any changes made by Special Characters. Speaking of which, we'll have four returning Special Characters according to Ghost, and since our current codex only has three, that would mean Aun'Shi, from 3rd Edition's Codex: Tau would be making a come back. We'll also be getting an additional two to four Special Characters on top of that, all of which is perfectly believable, given just how many SC's have appeared in recent codices. One of these is reportedly named Iceheart, and while Ghost doesn't elaborate further, other contributors have stated that he'll be a Demiurg character. Beyond this, he states that there's been some shuffling of units in the Force Organization Chart which is to be expected.
His information on codex composition mentions that we'll have four basic HQ's, and three basic Troop Choices, excluding any changes made by Special Characters. Speaking of which, we'll have four returning Special Characters according to Ghost, and since our current codex only has three, that would mean Aun'Shi, from 3rd Edition's Codex: Tau would be making a come back. We'll also be getting an additional two to four Special Characters on top of that, all of which is perfectly believable, given just how many SC's have appeared in recent codices. One of these is reportedly named Iceheart, and while Ghost doesn't elaborate further, other contributors have stated that he'll be a Demiurg character. Beyond this, he states that there's been some shuffling of units in the Force Organization Chart which is to be expected.
A less boxy Crisis Suit as imagined by Roberto Cirillo. |
Building on the anime-inspired roots of the Tau Battlesuit - the Missile Barrage is one possible interpretation of the Ubersuit's armament. |
"Break yourself upon my body." |
"One of those looks like the new Vespid" - Ghost21 |
Who thinks 40k needs more cavalry? |
Stepping away from Ghost21's numerous posts, we come Jared van Kell's offering, from Librarium Online. Jared van Kell gives us an interesting mix of complimentary and contradictory information to Ghost, all of which comes from similar piece-meal posting, but is luckily contained in these two threads.
The first thing JVK wants us to know is that it'll be Robin Cruddace writing the codex, and that's a point he seems quite certain of. While Cruddace might be my second choice, I know there'll be a lot of people out there happy to see his name attached to the project, but remember, this rumor contradicts Ghost21's suggestion that it'll be Phil Kelly who writes our next codex.
He expands on the HQ situation, stating that our four generic HQ's will be the Tau Commander, Ethereal, Kroot Master Shaper, and Demiurg Ancient, and finishes by saying that two of the release's Blisters will be the Demiurg Ancient, and an Ethereal. It makes sense when you consider that a Tau Commander is indistinguishable for the most part, from other Tau Battlesuits, and that a Kroot Master Shaper could easily be included with, or made from, existing Kroot. It's also interesting to remember that Finecast has already released an Ethereal Blister - though the Tau line has traditionally always had a couple different Ethereals to choose from.
He expands on the HQ situation, stating that our four generic HQ's will be the Tau Commander, Ethereal, Kroot Master Shaper, and Demiurg Ancient, and finishes by saying that two of the release's Blisters will be the Demiurg Ancient, and an Ethereal. It makes sense when you consider that a Tau Commander is indistinguishable for the most part, from other Tau Battlesuits, and that a Kroot Master Shaper could easily be included with, or made from, existing Kroot. It's also interesting to remember that Finecast has already released an Ethereal Blister - though the Tau line has traditionally always had a couple different Ethereals to choose from.
Another piece by Lord Dirk, his take on how the Demiurg might look. and further evidence that community members either inspire, predict, or run parallel to things that might come. |
JVK also takes a moment to clarify, as best he can, how the HQ's will affect troops. He describes a relationship between HQ and Troop that can vary from increasing the stats of an existing troop choice (as in the case of the Ethereal increasing the Fire Warriors BS from 3 to 4), allowing units that weren't previously available as Troops to be taken as Troops (as with the Crisis Commander allowing for XV8s to be taken as a Troop Choice), or for a unit to be able to be taken at all (as in the case of the Kroot and Demiurg simply not being available without their respective HQ). One thing that is clear though, is that no one has an eloquent way of explaining this one yet - and it's likely we won't know exactly how it works until we have the book in hand. So far though, this staggered approach to the HQ's, where they each have a different effect on the army, and don't each simply unlock a troop choice, has been my favorite iteration.
JVK's rumors go on to mention the Skyray, and it's increased selection of payloads. He puts forward that Skyray's will have to choose a single flavor of Seeker Missile, and specialize only in that, one of which would be a Strength 6, AP 4, Blast. He stipulates further, however, that it's main role will still be target marking - implying that it will still very much be a support unit for Fire Warrior Teams. JVK doesn't mention whether or not Seeker Missiles will be a finite resource.The Warhammer IIC. A potential basis for what the Ubersuit might look like? |
The Bottom Line
Ghost21 and JVK are both respected rumor mongers in the community, and both have been active in Tau news for quite a while. The two have no clear relation to one another, and really only interact through expanding on the other's information, and when mutually compiled into rumor threads by people like Tastyfish. I feel this is important because they very often have information that relates to one another, like they've each been given half the pieces of the same puzzle. Just like triangulating a signal, the more independent sources confirming the same information, the more likely a chance it is to be correct, and I think that's what we're seeing here.
That's why I feel confident that HQ's unlocking, empowering, or otherwise interacting with Troops is going to happen. It's why I feel talk of this Ubersuit, and even it's bracing mechanic can be banked on. A lot of what's been discussed however, changes to the Skyray for instance, are changes the community has wanted for a long time. So when we hear about rumors like this, they naturally sound like echoes of existing hear-say, or wishlists, when frankly, from GW's perspective, it would be common sense to act on. Sometimes the community has asked for something for so long that it just seems as though they're telling us what we want to hear, when really it's just that the rumor is too simple for it's own good. And while information trafficking of this sort will always be a clumsy art, my personal recommendation is that if you want to be on the bleeding edge of reliable rumors, watch these two.
As always folks, thanks for reading!
6 comments:
And the long of the short of it is that I shouldn't buy ANY Tau models until the book comes out, because not only are we getting a new Codex, it looks like we're getting a lot of new models. That suits me fine - I'll take the next month or two to finish off my Lizardmen!
Well it's interesting you should say that. Warhammer Tau just recently put up a list of which models are safe buys. Of course, he can't take into account how the rules for things will change. But I mean hey, Lizardmen need love too :P
By far the most logical and true-sounding Tau rumours I've come across. Thank you for taking the time and effort to collate all that info. Great site too.
Does anyone know why Bell of Lost Souls had a new tau rumour article on the main page (10.01.12) and then subsequently removed it?
Yes, actually. It was a troll post by Abusepuppy of 3plusplus. Within the body of the rumor post were several bolded or otherwise oddly formated characters that ended up spelling "lolitrollyou". In short - it was a sham.
Speaking of buying, here's a thought - the price of Crisis suits. In cash. If crisis suits can be a Troops choice, I hope the new suits are a little cheaper, or fielding a Crisis army is going to become financially impractical, which would be a shame...
Like fielding an army of Eldar Jet Bikes is now? It's sad, but it's certainly a possibility.
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